I also cannot find much that fits me for my criteria in a pack, at REI. REI sells to the masses and only puts its best sellers in their stores. The masses want low costs and REI wants "sturdy" so they do not get returns on gear that may need some special care when using. Be sure to look at the RIE website- they offer more online than in the store. You can buy it on line and have it shipped to the store. Our REI stores rent packs so maybe you can rent the pack you are considering buying for one trip to try it out. REI also has a liberal return policy. I would buy the pack, take it home, and spend several weeks just packing it loaded, around the house or around the block.