Thanks Bill,

We do quite a bit of car camping with the kids. I'm looking for something a little more remote to introduce my oldest son to backpacking. I've been to Malibu Creek SP. We haven't taken the kids there yet because it is usually all booked up. Sounds like times have changed. It is a great campground, though I don't remember the water hole. I may have missed it. We did hike back to the set of MASH. They still have an old rusted out jeep there.