"How fast do you want to get there, and how hard do you want to work to make it happen?"

Sometimes I make them pay for it by making it an educational moment. Get out the map and say, okay, how long has it taken you to get from this lake to here? well, it's about the same distance to the trailhead. Think you can keep going the same pace? Great! You should get there about midnight. Have a great day!
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"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's mind there are few." Shunryu Suzuki

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