What can I say I like to be clean. I will let ya know my thoughts after I carry it all next week. Franco , If I was trying to pull big miles , I most likley wouldnt have time to mess with it. I normally break camp bye 7 am and on the trail. I should be in camp depending on terrain bye 2:00 PM. I will have lots of time to heat water if need be. Time will tell one week from today and I will be on the road to Gatlinburg!