"I was first exposed to CN/CS/OC 16 years ago in the police academy. "

Johnny, I do volunteer work for our local cops and went through the "citizens police academy"....which is mostly informational. After watching videos and hearing war stories about pepper spray and tasers, the instructor says "Ok, who wants to take a spray and taser ride?" The entire class says..."uh...no." The videos did convince us how effective spray is though. Hard to believe it won't kill you! grin
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paul, texas KD5IVP