Samoset, No, both times I was in full throw-down mode. I was right on the ground itself, nothing in between.

Never did figure out how the water got in. Could not replicate the problem. Stuffed the bivy full of wadded up newspaper (took me and coupla friends most of a day to wad up that much newspaper). Ran garden sprinkler all night and all the paper was dry in the morning. Baffelment. It stood up to several other pretty significant rain squalls without a drop inside.

Only reason I gave up on the South Col was weight. The MLD was just so much lighter, took up a lot less space, and works beautifully. best,jcp