Hadn't thought of the "acohol may have been involved" aspect - might explain the pitches.

I also didn't mean to imply that the Eureka tent was somehow second class (a re-reading of my original post made me think some might read it that way.) Quite the contrary - I used Eureka tents (and Camp Trails packs - moment of silence, please) quite happily for about 10 or 12 years. They were great tents, and still are great tents; they just haven't evolved as far in the same lightweight directions that MSR, TarpTent, Big Agnes, and a number of other makers have. But for a good, functional tent at a reasonable price, when weight isn't a consideration, they're a definite contender. (Actually, my first move to "lightweight" hiking involved a Camp Trails Wilderness internal frame pack and a "frog"-style Eureka made-special-for-Campmor tent - together, they only weighed about 8 pounds, and got me below the 30-pound "ultralight" benchmark of the mid-80's.)