And to put that all in perspective, I love the Virga. but again, it's very dependant on *you* - how much you are carrying, how you pack it (the virga will need something like sleeping pads to act as a "suspension") and how it feels on you.

while yes, it's about a pound, it's not worth the weight saving
over a three pound pack if you are uncomfortable with it.

I probably do better than "average" with it because of the way I carry it, always with a big blue foam pad and everything stuffed in the middle of that.