if you carry 2 pads, are you using one of them for a seat? that's something i really like, myself, a seat. i had a therma-rest that i used with a seat, but i don't have either the pad or seat any more.

it would probably be worth having 2 pads and a seat if i can keep my weight 15 pouinds or less.

Ms. Mouse, I've asked the fellow if i can return it, and am waiting to hear back. i haven't sent the check yet, due to send it nex weds. if he declines i guess i can try to get the other pack i'm looking at. it wouldn't be good if it didn't work for me and i was stuck with it. esp since it was already offered here and nobody showed any interest. it's the first pack in the Northern Lite line. the first one made.