I use my propane powered Coleman for car camping which is the old stove I picked up at the dime store. I am getting into vintage/antique bp/camp stoves. I own two Svea 123's now which I am going thru, they started up my first attempt a few weeks ago, but don't roar. I've ordered new wicks and some dope to get them shiny. My go to stove for summer bping is the MSR Pocket Rocket, right simple and fast to set up/tear down and with the proper technique, works into the low single digits for that late fall trip. Burrr!