Thanks Jim, I take my chances. I set a price for what I think it is worth and bid my max. If I win, I win. Picked up a chainsaw a couple years ago that way. Hoping the two saws I have bids on now fall thru. Spending all my Chri$tma$ money. It is addicting to go on Ebay and bid. I sent back a piece of junk chainsaw I "won" a few weeks ago, at least the guy took it back. Compression was not what he said and the bearings were making noise.