Check with the local Ranger station before you go on any long trips in this area. I was planning to lead a group of Scouts into the Ventana wilderness on a 4 to 5 day trip, but upon checking with the rangers found that the trails described in the book I had, which was published a while ago, had not been maintained for many years for lack of funds, and now were overgrown with poison oak and could not be used.

So-be sure to get local advice from a current source before you go on any long trip in the area.

Pine Valley is an easy hike, but no hot springs frown It would be a good overnight, but is too short for 4 days. It is a good weekend hike for Scouts.

Good luck!!

Don
Fremont CA