Carter

You're right to point out leg insulation. Too many people skimp on leg insulation. I have down filled goretex bibs that weigh 32 oz, are seam sealed and are so warm that I can use a lighter coat.

It is difficult to convince people of the value in weight and warmth of down filled pants.

My winter coat is an old Marmot. 700 down, high pockets and thinsulate around the waist for wearing a harness. Integral massive hood and it weighs 39 oz. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I prefer 2 to 3 layers. 4 is constricting, 2 is generally not enough, but 3 works well. Like - long underwear, light weight fleece shirt, down bibs, gore tex down coat. The overlap of the bibs and coat over your kidneys makes you much warmer and keeps in a lot of warmth otherwise around the waist.

Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />