Hi Mouse <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

My Ti pots all have built in swing out handles - haven't carried a pot grippper for a decade. Then my friend Michele bought a fancy new heavy aluminum non-stick camping pot, and of course it has no handles so I pulled out one of my half a dozen old ones and mailed her one. Why didn't she just bring a kitchen pot that did have a handle? Wouldn't have weighed that much more. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Jim

Rope - well a rope can be used for many things, but its still a rope. I like to carry a short piece of 5mm rope, but I can't use it for much else besides being rope - I can't cook over it, light a fire with it, and hanging yourself is still using it as a rope. I suppose if you tied your trekking pole to your shelter with that piece of rope? - nah... Maybe if you set snares and use the rope to hang your food? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I'm carrying the "Earthling fire straw" for testing, but so far I haven't found a use except as a straw. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Now if your pack was used as a bivy sack that would count. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />