I tend to keep track of how long I have been hiking. I seem to travel about 3 km per hour depending on the difficulty of the terrain. I leave from a set place and after an hour I check and see if my surroundings match with my map. Of course, if I am hiking through the woods I may not be able to see much. However, on a groomed trial I am going to have a pretty good idea where I am anyway. Sure I cannot judge by eye the distance from a mountain, but if that mountain has a name I can use it for a reference along with a river or some other landmark. Of course I have to correctly identify said mountain, and that can be problem <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> It gives a guy something to think about. Keeps one from getting bored. If this was easy, everyone would be doing it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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