Esbit seems to be pretty good fire starter too. The trouble as I see it. I only need a fire in emergencies such as if it is wet and cold. If it is raining, the wood is bound to be wet, I might want to be able to get the center of the wood. Some of these logs are quite large in diameter. As I said, last time I was out I would have given anything for an axe. I could have likely made do with a saw.

Maybe I should just build the fire around my butane stove <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Howie