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Paul
If it weren't that many of us have exactly the opposite experience, it wold be easier to swallow some of the silly explanations for things that don't happen to all of us. We may live on the same planet, but we each live in our own little world. Like I have had frost on the outside of my winter bag, but never inside my winter bag.
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> YMMV
To get back on subject - a piece of canvas makes an excellent winter tent, water proof or not.


I expect some of your opposite experience to mine may actually be the "winter of my discount tent" - my cheap nylon tent is exactly that - and small roof vents - I've seen those old eldorados and there is probably a lot of difference to be had even in the amount of ventilation you can get through the eldorado, which is probably a much better thought out design than a 20 year old canadian tire dome tent <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> - of course if you're covered in 4 feet of snow you're actually far less vulnerable to freezing - the snow will insulate you so you're
only at 0 C right at the tent wall .

I expect some of the difference also may be your weather - My deep winter experiences
are *bone dry* and cold. so frost aggressively forms on everything when there is any kind of moisture, and there is almost never a significant amount of snow on my tent, so there's
no insulation factor between it and the outside world. I also don't have a "good" tent
for this type of use like your eldorado. However I know I've had frosty ceilings even in canvas tents in the mornings too. So back on topic, while I agree waterproofing is mostly unnecessary, I personaly wonder whether "breathability" of the fabric matters as much as ventilation and good design for same - i.e. how much of your success with the eldorado is the todd tex, versus just good design and venting. In my experience it doesn't, in my weather - but itsounds like you see different - are we really talking about regional weather
differences in the amount of humidity in the air when it's cold?
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