I guess I didn't hit submit on my reply. The MSR pan is what I returned. First pancake would stick, even with oil. Not much better after that. I had retired my Teflon/Silverstone pan w/folding handle for the much lighter MSR Blacklite. I may have gotten a bad pan, wasn't happy with it. My retired pan is used at home and works better still, than the best day the MSR pan ever saw. The MSR Blacklite weighs 5.4 oz. I'll give the Trangia 28 set a try when things look up or if someone posts something new. I have still been looking for other pans, everything else comes in too large of a set. I only need one, small, stinking pan.