Actually I was referring to Cree and Lumileds (Luxeon) in-house testing. This is according to Princeton Tec. Now they (Fenix) may be using the brighter LED that is used in the PTEC Apex, which if that's true, I stand corrected. The new EOS is using the 80Lumen Rebel (I don't know the nomenclature).

It appears the Fenix is a good light <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />. I was skeptical of the Sure Fire lights until I got one for myself. Wow is all I can say. Like you, I'm super interested, outside my job, in seeing new updates and improvements to LEDs and love to own really good quality lights. The technology astounds me. The improvements in efficiency and brightness are amazing. It seems I really do need to check out the Fenix lights more closely <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />.