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#86396 - 01/11/08 05:34 PM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: Earthling]
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Well, we consider you part of our greater family here too Jason <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Glad to have you stirring the fire here with us. Maybe you can start a thread titled,"Questions for jason to ask the Reps' at the OR show" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Then take a mini recorder to get the answers <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
I do take pretty good notes. I like your idea. I'll do it, start a new thread that is. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#124000 - 11/18/09 10:03 AM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: jasonlivy]
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All

Thank you for the education. It generates a question:

What durability concerns go with owning an eVent jacket?


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#124077 - 11/19/09 04:53 PM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: Steadman]
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Wow,that's an old thread.
Perhaps this has been updated already but in case it's not, I need to rectify something. In one of the first posts, it was said that Gore Pro Shell used a protein as a liner. Now, I don't know if this has been rectified already but in case it's not (and should be since I passed here already), the main difference (and perhaps the only real) between XCR and Pro Shell is that in the 3-layer version XCR uses a warp knit lining while Pro Shell uses a low density woven lining that is supposed to be more breathable, lighter and more durable. So no prtein involved.

For the rest, realise that both Gore and GE (BHA) probably knows eachother weak points and strong points and probably will only admitt their strong points and never their weak points. A very few times, someone from Gore admitted that eVENT was more breathable but this was immediately followed that in th long rong Gore-tex was still more durable. Some manufacturers said they would keep on using Gore-tex because it was more durable.

Does that mean they are right? No idea. Just realise that they will all tell us the story they want us to hear.

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#124105 - 11/20/09 09:34 AM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: Woubeir]
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Woubeir; thanks... I started a new thread so that my question wouldnt be buried under all the old stuff.

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#124360 - 11/24/09 08:43 PM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: Ben2World]
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While minor improvments over time are inevitable. I strongley beleive Gor Tex probably hasnt changed much. For the most part marketing stratgy is the key. Give it a Name and they will spend! Fabrics are not as high tech as computer processors. NYlon is nylon and coatings are coatings. I may be wrong here but there are now many generic versions of Gor Tex. I do own a set of Gor Tex I Purchased at Cabellas over ten years ago. Until I see strong non biased evedence of comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges, I have no intention of laying out another 250.00 to 300.00 to replace it!
Happy Trails!


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#124413 - 11/25/09 05:21 PM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: TomTrout]
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I was recently at one of Gore's facilities in Maryland. For anyone who is interested, I posted some videos showing the techniques they use to test Gore-Tex products:

Footwear Testing

Facility Tour

eVent vs. Gore-Tex Demo

How to Care for Gore-Tex Products
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#124422 - 11/25/09 07:50 PM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: Kent W]
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I take it you have never tried eVENT.

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#124448 - 11/26/09 03:12 PM Re: All Gore's creations [Re: CWF]
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Whether he has tried it or not, the pure fact that the information is from a disputed source (W.L. Gore in this case)makes that any information is regarded as suspect (informative or not).
Fortunately, there as much in the design as in the materials being used. And there's currently no design that I like so they make it easy on me. So I keep on waiting (because I can).

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