Feathered Friends 300x250
Superior Down Sleeping Bags & Clothing

Ultralight Adventure Equipment (ULA)    

   
 
 
Lite Gear Talk

BCG Holiday Sale

Amazon.com
Backpacking Forums
BackcountryGear.com
backcountry gear

---- Our Gear Store ----
The Lightweight Gear Store
 
 WINTER CAMPING 

Shelters
Bivy Bags
Sleeping Bags
Sleeping Pads
Snow Sports
Winter Kitchen

 SNOWSPORTS 

Snowshoes
Avalanche Gear
Skins
Hats, Gloves, & Gaiters
Accessories

 ULTRA-LIGHT 

Ultralight Backpacks
Ultralight Bivy Sacks
Ultralight Shelters
Ultralight Tarps
Ultralight Tents
Ultralight Raingear
Ultralight Stoves & Cookware
Ultralight Down Sleeping Bags
Ultralight Synthetic Sleep Bags
Ultralight Apparel


the Titanium Page
WM Extremelite Sleeping Bags

 CAMPING & HIKING 

Backpacks
Tents
Sleeping Bags
Hydration
Kitchen
Accessories

 CLIMBING 

Ropes & Cordage
Protection & Hardware
Carabiners & Quickdraws
Climbing Packs & Bags
Big Wall
Rescue & Industrial

 MEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 WOMEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 FOOTWEAR 

Men's Footwear
Women's Footwear

 CLEARANCE 

Backpacks
Mens Apparel
Womens Apparel
Climbing
Footwear
Accessories

 BRANDS 

Black Diamond
Granite Gear
La Sportiva
Osprey
Smartwool

 WAYS TO SHOP 

Sale
Clearance
Top Brands
All Brands

 Backpacking Equipment 

Shelters
BackPacks
Sleeping Bags
Water Treatment
Kitchen
Hydration
Climbing


 Backcountry Gear Clearance


Stay Healthy--Eat Well

MARY JANES FARM ORGANIC MEALS

Mary Janes Farm Organic Backcountry Meals

NATURAL HIGH GOURMET MEALS

Natural High

 

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#200043 - 01/11/18 05:12 PM Old Lowe Alpine Systems 65L Pack - removable stays
Lucidcryotnk Offline
newbie

Registered: 01/11/18
Posts: 1
Loc: MO
A friend gave me this 20 year old pack I thought I'd never use, but here I am. The guy that gave it to me said it had never been used. The inside waterproof coating is peeling off, and it's heavy - but it has all of the old-school tech features I need for a 1000 ft. vertical trail hike carrying winter hammock gear next weekend. It has good lumbar/hip pads/belt that rest in the right places, top of shoulder strap tensioners, and chest strap. My thing is kayak camping instead of hiking, but this is a one-off special event (cold butt group hang). I'm 58, in good health and physical shape, but 20 lbs overweight at 200. I have a total load weight of 31 lbs, and the pack holds it all no prob, using only about the bottom 2/3 of space. My main question is, am I better off to remove the actually heavy/large/thick aluminum stays at this weight, or keep them inplace? Also, should i try and spread load out along the full length of the pack instead and cinch up the slack in diameter? My bedding is light but pretty much fills the very bottom, and I'm trying to keep my 2L+ water higher between my shoulder blades. Filtering is out due to feral pigs soiling the supply. And a bonus answer would be, how to remove all that peeling rubberized coating that gets all over everything, or is it worth it for occasionally using this old pack? I thought about just putting anything needing water protection in a 40 gal contractor bag on the inside, and using a pack cover for the outside. THANKS!


Edited by Lucidcryotan (01/11/18 05:18 PM)

Top
#200044 - 01/11/18 08:53 PM Re: Old Lowe Alpine Systems 65L Pack - removable stays [Re: Lucidcryotnk]
aimless Offline
Moderator

Registered: 02/05/03
Posts: 2870
Loc: Portland, OR
Whether to remove the stays is best answered by removing them and then carrying the load you expect to carry for a few miles around the neighborhood. You'll feel for yourself how much or how little difference they make in your general comfort and can decide if they're worth it.

Using a contractor bag inside your pack is an excellent idea. If you put everything in it that needs to stay dry, you can probably do without a rain cover on your bag - although it is possible that without a rain cover your bag might absorb enough water weight from rain that it exceeds the weight of the cover. That's not easily discoverable without further experimentation.

Top
#200060 - 01/12/18 12:06 PM Re: Old Lowe Alpine Systems 65L Pack - removable stays [Re: aimless]
BZH Offline
member

Registered: 01/26/11
Posts: 854
Loc: Torrance, CA
I agree with aimless... just want to add that it probably isn't worth removing the old coating. REI tried to sell me some special soap from Sawyer and say I could spend a day with a toothbrush scrubbing every inch of the surface.

I'm also guessing removing the stays won't be a good move with a 30 pound load.

Top
#200063 - 01/12/18 05:00 PM Re: Old Lowe Alpine Systems 65L Pack - removable stays [Re: BZH]
Glenn Roberts Offline
Moderator

Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 1405
Loc: Southwest Ohio
As a veteran, I remember scrubbing every inch of a surface with a toothbrush. Suffice it to say it’s an experience I’ve never found necessary to repeat after basic training. I never found that it built any sufficient additional character, or had any other socially redeeming value. smile

Top

Shout Box

Highest Quality Lightweight Down Sleeping Bags
 
Western Mountaineering Sleeping Bags
 
Lite Gear Talk - Featured Topics
Is Colombia still making hiking shoes??
by steve-in-kville
01/16/18 03:23 PM
Old Lowe Alpine Systems 65L Pack - removable stays
by Lucidcryotan
01/11/18 05:12 PM
Shelter Advice
by Monsieurp
12/26/17 10:31 AM
Backcountry Discussion - Featured Topics
Cowboy Camping?
by AliasDave
11/10/09 02:41 PM
Make Your Own Gear - Featured Topics
I Made Bamboo Trekking Poles
by 4evrplan
01/17/18 12:36 PM
Quilt sizing
by PaHiker
01/04/18 01:35 PM
How to fix Tension problem on .66oz membrane
by Cowgirl007
01/03/18 10:36 AM
Featured Photos
Breakneck Ridge, New York
May 2012 Eclipse, Lassen Park
New Years Eve 2011
Trip Report with Photos
Seven Devils, Idaho
Oat Hill Mine Trail 2012
Dark Canyon - Utah
Who's Online
0 registered (), 31 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
OHW, Ruca, lgarcia, Manda, tightline
12490 Registered Users
Forum Links
Disclaimer
Policies
Site Links
HOME
Backpacking.net
Family Hiking
Lightweight Gear Store
Backpacking Book Store
Lightweight Zone
Hiking Essentials

Outdoor Gear Daily Deals
Outlets, Sales, Bargains

Our long-time Sponsor, BackcountryGear.com - The leading source for ultralite/lightweight outdoor gear:

Backcountry Forum
 
 

Since 1996 - the Original Backcountry Forum
Copyright © The Lightweight Backpacker & BackcountryForum.com