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#194232 - 03/14/16 02:54 PM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: bobito9]
wandering_daisy Offline
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Loc: California
My rule is to never wear outer clothing in my sleeping bag. I have a quick drying base layer that I wash every day after hiking and wear that and my summer weight long johns in the bag. I also wash myself (jump in the lake or a bucket bath) at the end of every hiking day. Do it immediately after you stop hiking, when you are already over-heated, and it will not be that bad. Just rinsing off the sweat and dust helps. I have washed my bag once in 10 years. It really did well- even had more loft after I washed it. I think OM posted some really good instructions on how to wash a down bag. I followed her suggestions and it really worked!

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#194235 - 03/14/16 03:08 PM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: wandering_daisy]
OregonMouse Offline
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6370
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Not my instructions; they are on the Western Mountaineering website. If those instructions are good enough for the Cadillac of sleeping bags, they're good enough for any down sleeping bag!

Mine also had quite a bit more loft after washing than when I bought it.

I'm not into jumping into cold water, but I do sponge off with a damp rag and lukewarm water (leftover from what I heat for dinner) in the tent at bedtime. I normally wear my base layers to bed--I never wear item for hiking except in colder weather than we get in the Pacific NW, so they never get sweaty. My hiking shirt and pants stay off; if they're damp they go inside a plastic bag and then in the bottom of my sleeping bag (they don't dry but at least they aren't cold when I put them on in the morning!). I also wear a cap to bed, which keeps the sleeping bag hood from picking up hair oils.
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#194252 - 03/15/16 01:28 AM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: OregonMouse]
rodwha Offline
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Registered: 06/25/11
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I am an exceptionally warm sleeper and the idea of using base clothing to sleep in sounds absurd at first, but then this could easily excuse me for bringing a lighter and smaller bag! Hmmmm....

The thought of a liner screams to me to be twisted and bunching. I'd not sleep well.
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#194278 - 03/16/16 10:50 AM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: OregonMouse]
BrianLe Offline
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Registered: 02/26/07
Posts: 1143
Loc: Washington State, King County
Quote:
My rule is to never wear outer clothing in my sleeping bag.

Here's a great example of how different people approach things differently.

Unless my clothes are fairly wet, I always wear my outer clothing --- just the same clothing that I hiked in --- in my sleeping bag at night. It's just one less thing. If it's cold enough I'll add a light puffy jacket, and likely a warm hat (I'm bald ...) but otherwise, same clothes.

I've washed my bags more often than once in ten years, but then I've used them quite a bit and haven't washed them THAT often. Maybe twice each? Maybe three times. I've owned these two bags (a 30F and a 20F bag) for quite a few years, and did send them both in to be restuffed (and in fact overstuffed), but I'm confident that this was just to losing down while using the bags, not to washing.

I guess bottom line is that if keeping your bag really clean is important to you, and/or if you just like the process of cleaning up and wearing clean(er) clothes in camp and during the night, the process that WD and OM use is a great one. But FWIW, you can certainly make it work getting in touch with your inner cowboy ("just throw down your bedroll and start sawing logs"). Or perhaps inner hobo is a better (olfactory) comparison.

Note that my process doesn't necessarily save a lot of weight carried, as I do have something to sleep in when my clothes are all wet. But not much --- for me it's typically a light t-shirt and a light pair of shorts, which double for me as 'town' clothes (i.e., clothing I wear in a trail town, resupply stop, when I'm washing my trail clothes).

For so many backpacking "process" things, there's more than one right approach.
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#196992 - 11/24/16 05:53 PM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: the-gr8t-waldo]
EMT Dave Offline
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Registered: 11/24/16
Posts: 14
Loc: MA
I have limited experience but I understand the real reason for using them is to keep the bag clean/er. Seems like they would most be welcome on a long thru hike like the AT.
Perhaps a very light set of long sleeve/ long legged underwear might take its place while serving another function.
But...a big but, is what happens when the weather is hot and you want to be naked?
And what about the twisting about your body question?

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#197003 - 11/28/16 12:27 PM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: EMT Dave]
BZH Offline
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Registered: 01/26/11
Posts: 829
Loc: Torrance, CA
Originally Posted By EMT Dave
I have limited experience but I understand the real reason for using them is to keep the bag clean/er. Seems like they would most be welcome on a long thru hike like the AT.
Perhaps a very light set of long sleeve/ long legged underwear might take its place while serving another function.
But...a big but, is what happens when the weather is hot and you want to be naked?
And what about the twisting about your body question?


Many of us have found it is more enjoyable to have less weight on your back than to have every luxury on the trail. The only experienced backpacker that I've ever come across who claim to use liners are ones selling a used sleeping bag.

In terms of temperature management in a sleeping bag.... check out quilts!

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#197605 - 02/07/17 09:47 AM Re: silk mummy liners [Re: the-gr8t-waldo]
Ender Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 779
Loc: ME
I use a silk liner, but not for warmth or to keep the bag clean. I just find it more comfortable, especially in warmer weather when I tend to sleep in less clothing. End result is I don't end up sticking to the nylon of the sleeping bag. And in really hot weather, I push the sleeping bag off to the side and use the liner alone as a sheet, which is just warm enough. So, for me, it's well worth the weight.

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