i was wondering what size (cubic inches) packs most of you use? im not an UL backpacker, i probably carry things that would make some of you shutter but i would like to lighten my load but im wondering if my 4000cu pack is too big.
Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 1735
Loc: California (southern)
I have about four packs in different sizes that I use depending upon the trip and circumstances. If I had just one pack, it would be right around 4000 cu in, big enough for multiday trips, but, cinched down, usable for day hikes
I am currently using a Golite Pinnacle 4400 cu in pack. It's a bit large for weekends but a good size for longer trips. Like oldranger said, it has the ability to be cinched down to make it smaller which is a plus.
Like OldRanger I have multiple packs for different purposes, but my general go-to pack is my G4 which is 4,000cu. I could easily get away with a much smaller capacity, but I need the additional for my fly-fishing gear and at a little over 1Lb it is the one I choose even when I don't need the extra space!
Registered: 02/23/03
Posts: 2124
Loc: Meadow Valley, CA
For winter camping, I have a 5500 ci I believe it is and a newer 4300 ci pack that has a good fraction of that space in pockets on the outside, don't care for the outside pockets, but it works. With a canister, I can use the smaller one even for week long trips.
Units of volume per units of weight, other things being equal, are greater in larger packs so I stick with my larger pack.
I like having the larger pack when unexpected things happen (e.g. having to carry a 5 gallon bucket inside the pack on a beach hike, carrying floats and ropes home which I found on the beach, carrying a friends gear because they are tired or hurt, etc.)
I also like the packing convenience of a larger pack. No need to stuff everything perfectly. Just throw it in as you would in the back of a pick-up.
Most of my stuff fits in about 4000 cu. Both my main packs have an extension that will accommodate a larger bear can/bag if my food supply gets bigger (only thing that will, on a multiday hike).
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Everybody needs 6 packs, take the right one for where you're going, but it should maybe have some reserve space. The larger it is the easier it is on the gear that you squeeze into it and if you have to off load someone else's pack its good to have some extra space.
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Registered: 03/04/10
Posts: 34
Loc: spotaylvania, va
ok cant argue with that. im more of a military guy/minimalist. yea i know they contrast eachother. but i only buy what i truly need to survive and my equipment especially my pack must be up to or close to military grade. but ofc for food i dont buy mre i have a jetboil.
Registered: 03/04/10
Posts: 34
Loc: spotaylvania, va
yes but if you think about it for most peo the fuel, stove and pan would actually weight more than a jet boil and its the most convient for me since my pack doubles as a backpacking pack and survial pack. the bag must b 500d coudra or better
Ah, wow. That's a heavy pack fabric. But I think very similar to what my Mountainsmith (SAR) pack is made of - it's all about durability.
Most people I know fall into two camps. The Jetboil/white gas camp, where the kitchen kit weighs a few pounds, and the alcohol camp, where the pot, stove and windscreen weigh maybe five ounces, add three ounces of fuel for the weekend.
Mine is a 4 oz pot, three ounce stove/windscreen combo, and about 4 oz of fuel, as I generally like hot breakfasts and dinners.
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Registered: 03/04/10
Posts: 34
Loc: spotaylvania, va
durablity is the only way to go for me, if ita not going to last 5yrs, forget it, i wait for a month b4 i buy anything and do alot of reaearch and thinking b4 i buy anything, dont want to buy anything and throw it on a bin. yes 500d is heavy but thats why i have a maxpedition pygmy falcon 2 pack, only 3lbs fits everything i NEED with a lil extra room. its a bag thats always with me so if i wanna go camping, i dont have to pack up the stuff cux its always ready to go 24/7. but i do have to wait for my buddies to catch up.
Registered: 03/04/10
Posts: 34
Loc: spotaylvania, va
i forgot to add. when i said minimalist i didnt mean only light for certain things i also meant the amount of things i will truly need out in the open. yes im more survival over comfort but to me thats all that counts, can i survive on this items if not chuck it
My go-to packs are generally the 50-liter model, so around 3,000 - 3,500 cubic inches. (Some "50" packs, like the Atmos, are slightly more capacity in the longer torso lengths, thus the range of capacity. Others only count the main packbag, not the side pockets or lid, which also skews comparability.)
That's plenty for three seasons - sometimes almost too much in hot weather - but in winter, if I'm going to be out for more than 1 or 2 nights, I either add extra strap-on pockets or end up having to start out with my sleeping pad and its chair kit lashed to the outside, depending on the pack. (Yep, I said chair kit. I no longer consider it a luxury to have a comfortable seat; my back relaxes better, so I sleep better.)
I use a Osprey Atmos 65 couldnt imagine filling it, cinches down for a nice sized daypack
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6 packs?! now thats too many.2 good packs of diff sizes would suffice
Three packs just about suit my needs: The G4 is my typical 3-season, 4-5 day, backpacking/fly-fishing pack. For regular 3-season backpacking I use the ULA Conduit (53L)-- it is a little bigger than the Golite Jam and Exos 46, but at a little over 1LB, it is hard to beat-- although GG's Miniposa keeps tempting me
For my winter needs I prefer something a little more durable, that provides better support and Granite Gear's 62L, 3lb. 8oz Meridian Nimbus is the one I go to.
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