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#121243 - 09/20/09 09:38 PM How do I get to sleep on the trail?
Darwin Offline


Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 43
Loc: Bloomington, IN, USA
I've done quite a bit of backpacking. Each time it's an exercise in sleep deprivation. I'm just not able to get to sleep quickly nor stay asleep well.
What do you recommend that I take and/or do to get to sleep easily and stay asleep?

Darwin
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#121245 - 09/20/09 10:01 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
Tango61 Offline
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Registered: 12/27/05
Posts: 931
Loc: East Texas Piney Woods

Eat some cheese before you go to bed and where ear plugs once you are in your bag/quilt.

I always wake up (to answer nature's call) at some point during the night so I never "stay" asleep for more than 3-4 hours at a time.
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#121247 - 09/20/09 10:08 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Tango61]
OregonMouse Offline
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6800
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
I'm usually too excited to sleep the first night, but after that I have no problems.

I have found that a sufficiently warm sleeping bag and a really comfortable pad are the keys to getting a good night's sleep. What is comfortable varies according to your age, how you sleep, the condition of your joints, etc. I need a 2.5" air pad, blown up about halfway (just enough to keep my hip off the ground when I'm on my side) to do the job. Your Mileage May Vary.

I strongly recommend spending several nights at home on the floor with a new sleeping pad. 15 minutes in the store is not enough. Test the pad thoroughly at home while you can take it back in new condition.

No doubt the hammockers (I spent part of the weekend with four of them) will chime in about the comfort of their setup. As I said, YMMV!


Edited by OregonMouse (09/20/09 10:10 PM)
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#121252 - 09/20/09 10:46 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Tango61]
Darwin Offline


Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 43
Loc: Bloomington, IN, USA
Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.

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#121253 - 09/20/09 10:46 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: OregonMouse]
Darwin Offline


Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 43
Loc: Bloomington, IN, USA
Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.

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#121260 - 09/20/09 11:51 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
finallyME Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
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Loc: Utah
It might help if we knew why you aren't sleeping. Is it because of comfort, cold, or something else?
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#121263 - 09/21/09 12:36 AM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
Ewker Offline
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 222
Loc: Tennessee
what time do you normally go to sleep at home? Are you going to bed earlier than you normally do? You could take some mild sleeping pills just to see if it would help.

I have been thinking about that myself. I am a night owl and when everyone wants to crash early I am wide awake for hours before I fall asleep.

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#121270 - 09/21/09 07:45 AM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: OregonMouse]
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No doubt the hammockers (I spent part of the weekend with four of them) will chime in about the comfort of their setup.


Hammocker here, chiming in.... grin I always fall asleep and stay that way easier in a hammock. On the ground, it's not as easy. Comfort and position matters.
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#121274 - 09/21/09 10:29 AM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
lori Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 2801
What keeps you awake, and what wakes you up?

The only eight full hours of sleep I have ever gotten were on the trail, in a hammock, with an underquilt. I can't say that I have gotten a full night's sleep every night - bears, wind, rain, a full bladder, snoring campmates in tents with flies that flap around, little creatures that chew trekking pole handles and argue vociferously around the campsite, and random other factors tend to come up from time to time.

But, the solution lies in a better understanding of why you can't sleep and what options you have to combat it. So we can guide our suggestions, you could post more details.

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#121281 - 09/21/09 12:22 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
BarryP Offline
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Registered: 03/04/04
Posts: 1574
Loc: Eastern Idaho
Vitamin T works for me.
(Tylenol PM)
-Barry

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#121301 - 09/21/09 08:10 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: BarryP]
TomM Offline
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Registered: 11/05/05
Posts: 26
Originally Posted By BarryP
Vitamin T works for me.
(Tylenol PM)
-Barry


Regular Tylenol works for me. I am just not sure how healthy it is.

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#121315 - 09/21/09 11:47 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
Jimshaw Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 3983
Loc: Bend, Oregon
EAR PLUGS!!! thanks

Jim crazy
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#121337 - 09/22/09 12:16 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Jimshaw]
kbennett Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 820
Loc: north carolina
Yeah, ear plugs are a huge help.
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#121357 - 09/22/09 09:50 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Ewker]
Darwin Offline


Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 43
Loc: Bloomington, IN, USA
Yep, on the trail I go to bed 2-3 hrs earlier than I usually do at home.

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#121369 - 09/22/09 11:22 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
Ewker Offline
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 222
Loc: Tennessee
then you are like me. I have decided I will take some mild sleeping pills to help me get to sleep. It is either than or sit up by myself which isn't a lot of fun.

If by some slim chance I do fall a sleep right away I will be up in 6 hrs. I hate waking up at 2-3AM and everyone else is still a sleep

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#121392 - 09/23/09 12:12 PM Re: How do I get to sleep on the trail? [Re: Darwin]
Keith Offline
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Registered: 01/04/02
Posts: 1667
Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Seems like it should be sort of self-correcting over time if you are out more than 1-2 nights and covering any kind of mileage. If you didn't get sleep the 1st night, despite the extra exercise and outdoors, the second night after another dose of exercise plus lack of sleep should pretty well do you in.

Also, perhaps more of a "comfort food" supper and hot chocolate just before going to bed.

Or, if you are awake, how about reading for a while?

I know it used to be for me that all the stealthy little creepings and snappings out in the woods kept me in alert mode. I've gotten over that now, but if that bothers you, the earplug suggestion may be helpful.
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