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#107751 - 12/08/08 12:27 PM Dealing with Wet Dog
OregonMouse Offline
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On a post about tarptents, Rootball asked this question:
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During rains your dog must get wet - how do you get into shelter with a wet dog and keep it from getting your sleep system wet? Or how can you keep from getting your clothes wet? I have often pondered this - wet dog, down bag, small space... how is this handled?


Good question, IMHO deserving of a separate post!

Hysson is mostly Labrador retriever, so his dense, furry undercoat normally doesn't get wet. This leaves mostly his outer coat to deal with. Before letting him in the tent, I rub him down with a couple of Handi-Wipes (which I prefer to pack towels, but YMMV). When I take him into the tent, my sleeping bag and pad are folded/shoved out of the way. I immediately put on his sweater, which I made out of an old polypro base layer top. That keeps his wet fur from rubbing against my sleeping bag or clothing yet allows the water to evaporate (adding, of course, to condensation in the tent...). The polypro sweater is thin enough that he doesn't overheat, but seems to be enough to keep him warm in freezing temperatures. The DWR shell of my sleeping bag does the rest.

Should the start of a backpacking trip coincide with Hysson's monthly bath time, I postpone the bath until after the trip. Bathing, of course, strips the oils from his fur (although they come back after a week of daily grooming), allowing more water to get into that dense undercoat. Better a smelly dog than a soggy one!

My normal bedtime routine is to comb Hysson to remove dirt, excess hair (always a lot of that) and possible ticks just before letting him into the tent. I don't do it when he's wet, though--I don't want to comb water into his undercoat. Rubbing him down with the Handi-Wipes/pack towel accomplishes the same thing.

Hysson was crate-trained as a pup. He therefore regards the tent as his crate, a place of refuge where he lies quietly on his Gossamer Gear Thinlite pad. The main problem is when he wakes up in the morning and goes into his whole-body tail-wag routine. This quickly removes all moisture from the tent walls, which can get interesting if I haven't wiped them down first. The DWR on my sleeping bag has been enough to repel this monsoon. On my way out the door, I shake the moisture drops off my sleeping bag.

I trim Hysson's claws twice monthly and so far have had no problems with his claws and the silnylon tent floor or netting, even with the lightweight floor in a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo. I believe his early crate-training has helped there, too. I make sure he stays away from my WM down sleeping bag and air mattress and lies down on his own pad. I don't go off and leave him alone in the tent, either.

I keep Hysson out of the water in the evening before bedtime (we do our water gathering when we first get to camp). It helps a bit that he is sadly missing a normal Lab characteristic-- he won't swim! He loves to wade, but his one swimming stroke is a mad dash for shore when he realizes his feet are no longer touching bottom.

My daughter had a short-haired dog (vizsla) and had to put a doggie raincoat on him when they were out in the rain. Otherwise her dog would get chilled and start shivering even in relatively warm rain. The raincoat, of course, kept the dog's body dry. I wouldn't want to do this with a thick-coated dog because he'd overheat when hiking.

How do the rest of you dog owners cope?
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#107752 - 12/08/08 01:11 PM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: OregonMouse]
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Thank you for your time in making that informative post. Things you mentioned are things that I had never considered before. Brushing or combing the dog before entering the tent is an excellent idea, as is the polypro sweater.
I have a friend that always hiked with his dearly departed lab, and he also used a clip flashlight. The first comment I ever remember him making about dog hiking was when the lab was about a year and a half old- his comment was that he hated camping near a stream because the dog would be in and out of the water and then finally come into the tent soaking wet and looking for some affection. But he always laments about that dog when we go hiking - I think it was a bond of true friendship and love. Mans best friend is his dog.

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#107753 - 12/09/08 09:54 AM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: rootball]
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I must admit I don't backpack with my dog very much, because most of the time I'm in bear country and don't want the added risk.

Having said that, the one time I did in inclement weather, I made a little tarp shelter for him out
of my silponcho, next to where I had my hammock set up. so with me it was simple, something
I had made a "extra" dog shelter. as a springer with plenty of fur who is used to being outside a lot
he was perfectly fine with it, and as he's crate trained as well it seemed to feel like a crate to him.

I'm curious - is the dog in the tent so the dog can have some downtime with you and some affection? (the back side of that being "have you considered bringing stuff to make him a seperate little tarp hoochie next to you?)I didn't really have a choice (being in a hammock at the time I couldn't very well bring a springer spaniel into the hammock with me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#107754 - 12/09/08 05:22 PM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: phat]
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Well, phat, technically you could have put the dog in the hammock with you. However, that would be a post for "things not to try with a hammock"! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#107755 - 12/09/08 07:13 PM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: phat]
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Hysson is part of my sleep system! He curls up against me and helps keep me warm. Now that we're back in a Tarptent Squall 2, he sleeps at my feet where he's a marvelous footwarmer.

Hysson is the result of many generations of breeding for assistance dogs, who bond very closely with their owners and are with them 24/7. While (due to an undershot lower jaw) he was rejected from Canine Companions for Independence as a pup, he still has that genetic background of very close relationship with his human. If he couldn't sleep close to me, he'd be whining all night! And yes, both of us like the close companionship in the tent at night.

That's one reason why I am not interested in a hammock. Lifting 80 pounds of dog into one is definitely beyond my capabilities. The other reasons are the size of old-growth trees here in the Pacific NW and the fact that I often camp near or above timberline where finding two suitable trees at the right distance apart is either impossible or far more trouble than I want to take.

EDITED for some serious typos!


Edited by OregonMouse (12/10/08 11:39 PM)
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#107756 - 12/09/08 08:36 PM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: OregonMouse]
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Sounds like a good companion to have around - I understand completely.
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#110936 - 02/09/09 06:52 AM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: OregonMouse]
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I dont go on many backpacking trips without Jazmine a 3 y/o Boston Terrier, since she weighs only 15 lbs temps are my major concern. Keeping her dry during chilly spring and fall adventures is extremely important so for her I bought the Ruff Wear "Cloud Chaser" jacket that is water and wind proof...see link... http://www.ruffwear.com/Cloud-Chaser-Soft-Shell-Jacket_2#
the jacket keeps what little hair she does have dry.

as far as the tent, i've bought an extra long sleeping bag so there is enough room for her to climb all the way to the bottom and snore all night long, also perfect for keeping my feet warm wink yes, i love my dog!




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#111588 - 02/20/09 03:54 PM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: OregonMouse]
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I have a smooth-coated Border collie. She's not partial to water so I don't have to worry about her soaking herself in a river. As for rain, she has a very thick undercoat and woolly top coat; this makes for easy and fast drying. I rub her vigorously with a bath towel for about a minute and she's dry (she loves this too!). I also find that feeding a higher fat diet (18%) helps keep the coat slicker which in turn repels moisture. Active dogs are fine with the added fat.

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#112336 - 03/05/09 08:14 PM Re: Dealing with Wet Dog [Re: phat]
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Originally Posted By phat

I'm curious - is the dog in the tent so the dog can have some downtime with you and some affection? (the back side of that being "have you considered bringing stuff to make him a seperate little tarp hoochie next to you?)I didn't really have a choice (being in a hammock at the time I couldn't very well bring a springer spaniel into the hammock with me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


When he started with me I was tarping 4 seasons -South East US 4 seasons - not your 4th. So now he is in the tent. He does not need shelter in most cases - he lives outside year round - its more of a pack thang.

Good idea on the puppy shelter idea, though. That could be marketable.
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