Backcountry Forum
Backpacking & Hiking Gear

Backcountry Forum
Our long-time Sponsor - the leading source for ultralite/lightweight outdoor gear
 
 
 

Amazon.com
Backpacking Forums
---- Our Gear Store ----
The Lightweight Gear Store
 
 WINTER CAMPING 

Shelters
Bivy Bags
Sleeping Bags
Sleeping Pads
Snow Sports
Winter Kitchen

 SNOWSPORTS 

Snowshoes
Avalanche Gear
Skins
Hats, Gloves, & Gaiters
Accessories

 ULTRA-LIGHT 

Ultralight Backpacks
Ultralight Bivy Sacks
Ultralight Shelters
Ultralight Tarps
Ultralight Tents
Ultralight Raingear
Ultralight Stoves & Cookware
Ultralight Down Sleeping Bags
Ultralight Synthetic Sleep Bags
Ultralight Apparel


the Titanium Page
WM Extremelite Sleeping Bags

 CAMPING & HIKING 

Backpacks
Tents
Sleeping Bags
Hydration
Kitchen
Accessories

 CLIMBING 

Ropes & Cordage
Protection & Hardware
Carabiners & Quickdraws
Climbing Packs & Bags
Big Wall
Rescue & Industrial

 MEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 WOMEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 FOOTWEAR 

Men's Footwear
Women's Footwear

 CLEARANCE 

Backpacks
Mens Apparel
Womens Apparel
Climbing
Footwear
Accessories

 BRANDS 

Black Diamond
Granite Gear
La Sportiva
Osprey
Smartwool

 WAYS TO SHOP 

Sale
Clearance
Top Brands
All Brands

 Backpacking Equipment 

Shelters
BackPacks
Sleeping Bags
Water Treatment
Kitchen
Hydration
Climbing


 Backcountry Gear Clearance

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#131650 - 04/06/10 12:39 PM Second Zipper for Bag
SOARHEAD Offline
newbie

Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 4
Loc: S.W. Iowa
Howdy -
New guy here with a gear modification question.
I have a down filled, Gore Tex lined sleeping bag with a left side zipper. I would like to have a 'half length' zipper installed to the right side.

Would anyone know if this is feasible?
And, if so, could you recommend someone to do this?

Thanks much,
Ron

Top
#131651 - 04/06/10 12:55 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
ChrisFol Offline
member

Registered: 07/23/09
Posts: 387
Loc: Denver, Colordo
I have no idea about the construction, sewing etc of the bags and thus do not know if this is even possible, but I don't see see why not.

I would contact Down Works-- they may be able to offer some information and perhaps give you a quote.

http://www.downworks.com/


Edited by ChrisFol (04/06/10 12:56 PM)

Top
#131653 - 04/06/10 12:58 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
Glenn Offline
member

Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 2617
Loc: Ohio
My first question would be: does the bag use continuous baffles (the kind that allow you to shift the down from top to bottom, and vice versa)? If so, it's probably not going to be easily feasible to modify: when you cut down the left side, you'll end up with open tubes and down everywhere (I'd guess.) You'd have to seal both of the now-open tubes, probably with fabric, before installing the zipper.

Also, not knowing how Gore-Tex seam-and-zipper connections are fabricated, you may end up with a leaky seam if you're not very, very careful.

At the very least, contact the manufacturer before you attempt this. They may be willing - and capable - of helping you a lot.

Top
#131656 - 04/06/10 02:17 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: Glenn]
SOARHEAD Offline
newbie

Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 4
Loc: S.W. Iowa
Hey, thanks for the quick replies!
ChrisFol -
I'm getting ready for work now, so I'll try to contact Down Works tomorrow about this. I'm having diffulty getting their E-mail address, so I'll probably have to bug them by phone. : )

Glenn -
The bag does not have continuous baffles.
It's a Western Mountaineering bag, so I'll try them also. (can't find their E-mail either for some reason!)

Thanks for your help!
Ron

Top
#131657 - 04/06/10 03:07 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
Rick_D Offline
member

Registered: 01/06/02
Posts: 2939
Loc: NorCal
I'm going to shinny out on this tree limb and speculate you'd be better selling the bag and replacing it with a bag that's zipped on your prefered side, unless, that is, you really want a bag with two zips.

A WM bag in very good condition will probably sell for 80% of its retail price.

Cheers,

Originally Posted By SOARHEAD
Hey, thanks for the quick replies!
ChrisFol -
I'm getting ready for work now, so I'll try to contact Down Works tomorrow about this. I'm having diffulty getting their E-mail address, so I'll probably have to bug them by phone. : )

Glenn -
The bag does not have continuous baffles.
It's a Western Mountaineering bag, so I'll try them also. (can't find their E-mail either for some reason!)

Thanks for your help!
Ron
_________________________
--Rick

Top
#131658 - 04/06/10 03:15 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
ChrisFol Offline
member

Registered: 07/23/09
Posts: 387
Loc: Denver, Colordo
Originally Posted By SOARHEAD
Hey, thanks for the quick replies!
ChrisFol -
I'm getting ready for work now, so I'll try to contact Down Works tomorrow about this. I'm having diffulty getting their E-mail address, so I'll probably have to bug them by phone. : )

Ron


Email address is: thedownworks@gmail.com

Top
#131670 - 04/06/10 08:39 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: Rick_D]
Glenn Offline
member

Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 2617
Loc: Ohio
I assumed he wanted two zippers. If not, I'd agree that it would be better to sell the bag and get another that is zipped on the side you want.

Top
#131684 - 04/07/10 12:41 AM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
SOARHEAD Offline
newbie

Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 4
Loc: S.W. Iowa
Just got home from work & read the other responses.

ChrisFol -
Thank you for the Down Works E-mail address! I will contact them about this right away.

Rick & Glenn -
I just need a bag with a right side zipper. If it just isn't possible to have one installed on this bag, then I would try to sell it and get a new one. (probably from Down Works!)
BTW, this WM is like new, used maybe 4 times, and I would be happy to sell for half what I paid.

I sure appreciate the info & advice.
Talk to ya later.
Ron


Top
#131709 - 04/07/10 12:54 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
SOARHEAD Offline
newbie

Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 4
Loc: S.W. Iowa
Hey Guys -
Just a brief update on my progress with this.
I E-mailed Down Works and Nick said - "Sorry, we don't do this".

But, in the meantime I contacted Moosejaw and asked them if they knew of someone who might be able to handle this, and they referred me to 'Rainy Pass' in Seattle, WA.
I E-mailed them and they said that they could do it.

I checked out their web site (rainypass.com), and it looks like they do a lot of stuff with technical outdoor gear.

Sooo, I will be sending this bag out on Monday for the modification.

Talk to ya later,
Ron

Top
#131720 - 04/07/10 05:30 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: SOARHEAD]
OregonMouse Offline
member

Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6800
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Consider the cost. Will the cost of adding the second zipper and a draft tube (needed so you won't get cold) plus 2-way shipping be as much as 20% of the original cost of your bag? Since your WM bag is almost new, you should be able to sell it for 80% of what you paid for it, as mentioned above. It will be a bargain for somebody, and you can apply the cost to a new bag with right zipper.

Remember that adding a second zipper will add to the weight, and you'll need an extra draft tube, which will also add more weight.

Another possibility is for them to move the zipper from left to right; I suspect that might be comparable to installing a second zipper, but it wouldn't add to the weight of the bag.
_________________________
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey

Top
#131785 - 04/08/10 03:03 PM Re: Second Zipper for Bag [Re: Glenn]
CamperHiker Offline
member

Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 37
Loc: UT
Of course you could sew the bag's side first twice down the side BEFORE you cut it, then when you cut it to sew the zipper the padding won't come out.


___________
www.branchwhipped.com Outdoor gear giveaways, reviews, adventures
_________________________
www.branchwhipped.com Outdoor Gear Giveaways, Reviews & Adventures

Top

Shout Box

Highest Quality Lightweight Down Sleeping Bags
 
Western Mountaineering Sleeping Bags
 
Lite Gear Talk - Featured Topics
Backcountry Discussion - Featured Topics
Yosemite Winter Rangers
by balzaccom
12/21/23 09:35 AM
Make Your Own Gear - Featured Topics
Featured Photos
Spiderco Chaparral Pocketknife
David & Goliath
Also Testing
Trip Report with Photos
Seven Devils, Idaho
Oat Hill Mine Trail 2012
Dark Canyon - Utah
Who's Online
0 registered (), 263 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
StarryOwl, Noodles, McCrary, DanyBacky, Rashy Willia
13241 Registered Users
Forum Links
Disclaimer
Policies
Site Links
Backpacking.net
Lightweight Gear Store
Backpacking Book Store
Lightweight Zone
Hiking Essentials

Our long-time Sponsor, BackcountryGear.com - The leading source for ultralite/lightweight outdoor gear:

Backcountry Forum
 

Affiliate Disclaimer: This forum is an affiliate of BackcountryGear.com, Amazon.com, R.E.I. and others. The product links herein are linked to their sites. If you follow these links to make a purchase, we may get a small commission. This is our only source of support for these forums. Thanks.!
 
 

Since 1996 - the Original Backcountry Forum
Copyright © The Lightweight Backpacker & BackcountryForum