Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6800
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Good one, Jason! I'll try to remember all those when I get tempted to pontificate too much!
I also was once an English teacher (actually ESL). I also get rather upset by simple spelling and punctuation errors. I can relate to typing errors, of which I make my share. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Fortunately this forum seems not to have attracted the simplified spelling folks ho as u no cant be botherd to rite anything out
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As annoying as the "advertisement posts" are and it is true most of us can spot them a mile a way, I disagree with the assessment that the people who use them do not understand marketing. On the contrary, this type of marketing does work and is not employed by people who just do not understand marketing. So while I agree with you as to the annoyance, I disagree with the assessment of why they do it.
IMNSHO I love the law and order sound. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Nice.
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Good one, Jason! I'll try to remember all those when I get tempted to pontificate too much!
I also was once an English teacher (actually ESL). I also get rather upset by simple spelling and punctuation errors. I can relate to typing errors, of which I make my share. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Fortunately this forum seems not to have attracted the simplified spelling folks ho as u no cant be botherd to rite anything out
Hey Oregon Mouse, I totally agree with you that this forum is better than most when it comes to more mature and responsible posting.
I was also an ESL/EFL teacher and TEFL trainer and most of my students had better spelling and grammar than a lot of people on other forums. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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As annoying as the "advertisement posts" are and it is true most of us can spot them a mile a way, I disagree with the assessment that the people who use them do not understand marketing. On the contrary, this type of marketing does work and is not employed by people who just do not understand marketing. So while I agree with you as to the annoyance, I disagree with the assessment of why they do it.
Hi DTape, I guess what I was trying to say is not that they don't know where to do their marketing, but how to do it within a particular context. I work in a marketing dept. and we also happen to do this same type of organic marketing in forums, etc. We do it in a way that is upfront, honest, and doesn't insult the intelligence of our demographic with some thinly-veiled attempt to pretend we're not representatives of a company (unlike the ones I've seen on the backpacking forums). That just ends up doing more harm than good to your brand. I probably should have elaborated that point more in the video. But, hey, I was mad! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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The reasin sum of my spellin aint so great is that its' cloas enuf for folks to undirstend what i meen an i get go on to readin or posting somewheres else; Stopp gradin mine cause it aint gonna help none no how. ' otherwize i liked your'e post real good. go to whiteblase if you wont some reel stuff to complane about.
The reasin sum of my spellin aint so great is that its' cloas enuf for folks to undirstend what i meen an i get go on to readin or posting somewheres else; Stopp gradin mine cause it aint gonna help none no how. ' otherwize i liked your'e post real good. go to whiteblase if you wont some reel stuff to complane about.
Yep, that place is the WORST! Not only because of the bad spelling & grammar but also because there are so many immature people there who get into fights. I stopped going to that one a long time ago.
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As annoying as the "advertisement posts" are and it is true most of us can spot them a mile a way, I disagree with the assessment that the people who use them do not understand marketing. On the contrary, this type of marketing does work and is not employed by people who just do not understand marketing. So while I agree with you as to the annoyance, I disagree with the assessment of why they do it.
Hi DTape, I guess what I was trying to say is not that they don't know where to do their marketing, but how to do it within a particular context. I work in a marketing dept. and we also happen to do this same type of organic marketing in forums, etc. We do it in a way that is upfront, honest, and doesn't insult the intelligence of our demographic with some thinly-veiled attempt to pretend we're not representatives of a company (unlike the ones I've seen on the backpacking forums). That just ends up doing more harm than good to your brand. I probably should have elaborated that point more in the video. But, hey, I was mad! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Hey I completely understand. Those things bug me too. In fact I thought your video was kinda short and left out "a whole buncha stuff". It was funny too though. See you on the trail.
Hey I completely understand. Those things bug me too. In fact I thought your video was kinda short and left out "a whole buncha stuff". It was funny too though. See you on the trail.
Yeah, it was kind of short but I didn't want it to drag on. Thanks for pointing these things out though! Next time, I'll try to clarify things more.
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 4963
Loc: Marina del Rey,CA
Jason, pretty funny.
However, I must point out a couple of things. IMHO (oh, the irony of it all), the golf analogy doesn't quite work. It's more like "I need a car, what should I buy?" or "I want to go to Europe for a week, what should I wear?"
The whole viral marketing thing annoys me too. Sometimes it is hard to spot if done right. We usually can spot it here, but on occasion, some probably gets by. It probably works better in person where the usual distraction is a hot model type with some gizmo in his or her hand they are showing off to their "friends," aka accomplices.
This is most insidious when an EPK (electronic press kit) is sent out by someone like a drug company or the goverment and is presented as if it was a real news story. Our local stations here in LA show them on a regular basis during local newcasts. After a while, you can spot them. Propaganda masquerading as news is a lot worse than a fake post for camping gear.
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Our local stations here in LA show them on a regular basis during local newcasts.
Our local news here is rampant with that cheap "provided" news, too. But even the majors are not exempt. On Tuesdays, ABC evening news has a single sponsor with "fewer commercial interruptions" -- just one big commercial in the middle by a pharmaceutical. What are the chances of objective reporting about absurdly expensive drugs in the US when your sole income for that news show for that day is the industry that you should be investigating? Where are we in the midst of this corporate backslap?
Liked the video, Jason, although I'd have preferred you doing your very civil rant at Mt. Evans or Longs Peak (can you do chroma key with that camera?) I was squirming as I watched it, wondering if you'd mention those annoyingly verbose posters who get off-topic and then ramble on, and on, and on (and on!) -- but was relieved to see the final credits without it being brought up. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Video clips that are brief and concise are great, be they to explain a DIY project, a trip report, or an op-ed piece like this one. Keep them coming; you've got an audience.
Liked the video, Jason, although I'd have preferred you doing your very civil rant at Mt. Evans or Longs Peak (can you do chroma key with that camera?) I was squirming as I watched it, wondering if you'd mention those annoyingly verbose posters who get off-topic and then ramble on, and on, and on (and on!) -- but was relieved to see the final credits without it being brought up. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Video clips that are brief and concise are great, be they to explain a DIY project, a trip report, or an op-ed piece like this one. Keep them coming; you've got an audience.
Thanks man! Well, maybe the off-topic ones would be a good addition for the next rant! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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I usually like the ocassional info and knowledge you provide. But, the video was petty and generally iritating. No, I don't bother with spell check and never wanted to be an english teacher. I have an aunt that is and she is a know it all. I did like your other videos though.
When I moved from California back to Memphis 30 years ago and was place in school, I could not understand the locals with their slang. After all this time, I still have a problem with the locals here. A good friend of mine and fellow musician, owns a recording studio and most of his work is with Rap, Gangsta Rap and Gospel. I have to listen closely to understand what they are saying and what message they are trying to convey. Maybe I've listened to too much proper english to long to acclimate. But not to single out a certian race, I also have a problem with Ozzie. Not only is ebonics hard to understand, but I feel it's sad that we have to be forced to try to understand. And as soon as you think you've picked up some of the special lingo, it changes. What was once Bad is now good. And WTF is crunk. I think it means Good. So in closing, Chill. Don't worry be happy. oi3h4oti0wqiwndf'l;;askdqp4hklewntmsdfs ,vouw;ikklakle vmcdkekpalmfro.
Crunk is buzzed so happy (on whatever) that you "jus' don' kay [care] nomo".
"Crunkin' " is a herky-jerky dance that looks like a standing siezure.
Oh, BTW, we're both off-topic and have failed to answer the OP's question. Sorry Jason <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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