Midnight

Hi there <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

As you point out - all of this Winter glove talk needs to be tempered with weather information. I hate layered gloves, but a warm liner and shell is ok. I'd rather carry a 5 ounce pair of Kombi Goretex ski gloves and another pair of lighter more flexible gloves, which for me often means Black Diamond wind stoppers. Both of these pairs of gloves have stood up well over time and show no wear at all, I recommend them, especially if you wear an OR Gore Tex mit over the windstoppers, but you have to seam seal shell gloves and mitts these days. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Anyway the Kombis were good the morning it dropped to -5 with 50 mph gusts. Mitts are generally a better idea though, and THE PROBLEM WITH WEARING LINERS IN MITTS IS THAT THEY INSULATE THE FINGERS FROM EACH OTHER. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Its like wearing down pants in a sleeping bag - they keep your legs from keeping each other warm.

I once had a pair of $125 BD ice gauntlets. They were one piece but they were so massive that you could only do one thing in them - hold an ice tool. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

If you're like me, you have a can/box of gloves by the door. If all single gloves end up in there, often pairs appear. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The obvious solution if you live in a cold place is too have half a dozen (or more) pairs of gloves and a forced air glove dryer. I wear a pair of gloves to scrape the windshield and clean snow, then toss em into the truck and put on a fresh pair of warm fake fur like lined ten dollar gloves from Safeway. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> YMMV
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These are my own opinions based on wisdom earned through many wrong decisions. Your mileage may vary.