I just wanted to resurrect this thread to mention that this is why I love this forum. I have been trying for quite some time to get rid of a Camelbak Unbottle. I read this thread back when it was active, and the light bulb finally lit up in my head. I bought two 1 liter Platy Hosers, and they fit perfectly in the external bottle holders of my McHale pack. Now I not only have easy access to my water containers (I was using the Camelbak inside my pack), but I can also see how much water I have left, am not worried about them leaking inside my pack, and the new system dropped about 4 oz of weight. Thanks guys <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />