Right on. WALMART!!! I buy whats on sale. I am embarrased to wear most logos/labels so I chop 'em. It took me for frickin ever to get that embroidered TNF logo off a pair of pants I bought last summer. I don't want to be one of those hikers that is covered from head to toe in the 'Gear'. But sometimes the price, quality, and need all come together in a cosmic karma collision and I have no choice.