Hey everyone, I just want to say that I'm not leaving these items out. I also have weighed everything, and I've had my second overnight backpacking trip just 5 miles into the wilderness to test things.

My pack weight including the pack itself is 23 pounds. This is minus food and water which I'm not including. If I included food and water I'd still be under 30 pounds. Does this seem like an unreasonable weight for backpacking? I feel like around 20 pounds minus food and water is a viable target for a lot of people.