Wow thank for those links you 2.

Yeah I think you guys have convienced me to buy down bags, so looks like I'll either be spending more than what I wanted or skimping on something else.
The wife and I are sitting down right now trying to make a list of what we'd put in the bag for our first few 3 day trips. So far we only have the basics of clothing.
Oh yeah question about clothing. Do most people just wear the same outfit for a few days to save on weight or do most have a change of clothing for every day?

Thank you for advice on using tape to get an idea of tent dimensions, Good idea.
Thank you again, much appreciated.

Also how do you cook if you can't use a campfire or alcohol fueled stove?