FinallyMe, I had a great time in the 60's (except for tube tents) and early 70's. It's after '74 that things get a little fuzzy.... We had a kick-ass Boy Scout Troupe (in terms of outdoor activities). My first epic trip was in 1967...and I think we all know what epic means . I loved every backpacking trip I did with that troupe though. Half the troupe was Japanese American; it was a pretty hard core collection of fathers and sons.