I have to agree with you dryer. Money does talk. Both of these boats are at the top of what Id be willing to spend new. I'm hoping to find something used. If not I have the better part of a year to save for it.

One thing I've found to be true in the outdoor industry is that if you know what your looking at you get what you pay for!

My intentions is to be able to hand this boat down to my two sons as they get older. And buy something UL for my wife and myself as we get older!

The reason in looking at these two boats in particular is they both get great reveiws and they are light enough for me to roof/portage alone!
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