Thats good advice Banjo.A man could spend a lot of money in a hurry.I just want to have some good legal fun.I think I might get a better pack first.Wich leads to my nexy question. Can you feel a difference betweeen different brands of packs as far as the physical toll on the back or does it mainly depend on weight and packing style. I just need a pacck big enough for day trips up to two days on the trail, any suggestions on that?