Sorry, I should have specified I'm not going out now. I'm planning ahead for July. Although this year I could go now but I don't have a Winter bag. This has been a dry Winter so far, virtually no snow in the Sierras. Jim, I'm more familiar with English measure, what does 50-60g convert to? And is that grams? I thought grams were a dry unit of measure not fluid metric measurement? If your using metric would'nt it be Liters and or milliliters? L mL ? Thanks