This isn't a fold vs. stuff debate. I got my new tent the other day so of course I set it up and check it out. Then I pack it away and get out my pack and see how it fits. Well, it doesn't. The tent fits, the poles are too long and stick out the top. So, I was just wondering how everyone loads their tent...Pretty much the only option I can see is to lash them on the outside of the tent because they are sticking out the top a good 6". It's not a small pack either, it's 45L. I mean I won't be doing a thru-hike onthe AT with it but it's not a day pack either.