finallyME: Not yet an avid backpacker.Just trying to get the gear that I have ready and servicible. Perhaps you could answer a guestion that came up while I gathering information. I thought that I had a military surplus item, but when I looked to find any miliary type identification on the Alice pack I discovered there wasn't any. But the straps, metal attachment stampings and the frame definitely look US made and not chinese. I wonder why there was no identification. Maybe it was cut off.