I'll always remember our Boyscout trip on the Laural Highlands Trail in Western PA. It was our first big backpacking excursion and we had a gear shakedown the night before we left. One kids dad was ahead of his time in the lightweight philosophy. He had everything paired down to the number of matches the boy was carrying to light his "stove" with. His stove turned out to be one of those little fold up military deals that burn the fuel tabs in. Anyone else here that serious? It didn't work out too well for him. grin I'll never forget watching him try to cook a pancake on that.