Update-

I guess that is the question, waterproof or not? I've never owned a waterproof bag. i think of myself as somewhat gear wise but having some input on the pro's and con's is definitly helpfull. Im lucky right now that i can get both Marmot and Mtn Hardwear stuff pretty cheap, thus my choices. But i am by no means well off and it's still a big investment. + if i make a bad choice my wife will kill me.

A nice guy at REI told me to come here after i cldn't get any answers from anybody, and that i cld get some really good info from good people.

The Marmot Pinnicle looks good too. ? Opinions on wich manufacturer makes a "better" bag? Realizing that's subjective. Ami going the right way with down or is synthetic a better choice eventho it's heavy....r. So many choices, and options, so so little money =)

I will definity do the search thing and look at any info i can find there, thank you.