Originally Posted By Jimshaw


So first off, people with a lot of heavy mission hardware, like climbing gear, cameras, food etc, are gonna have heavy packs regardless of their baseweight.

Anyway I wanted to show how a 50 pound pack can suddenly become 20, don't put any food, fuel, water, crampons, iceaxes or climbing gear in it.


Food, Fuel and water are consumables and not included in a person's baseweight.

FWIW, I could go out with 4/5 days worth of food (1.5lbs of food per day) and 2L of water (4.4Lbs) and with my 9lb baseweight, still come in at around 20lbs and then when I take some "heavy mission" flyfishing hardware, I am still under 25lbs, thus I am failing to see the logic of your post.

If I need an iceaxe or crampons, then obviously I am doing something a little different than general three-season backpacking. So your post is a little confusing to say the least.