But again here lori, the lightest weight hikers will be using simply a tarp. or similar. If I take my lovely warbonnet and insulating pads and tarp, and delete the warbonnet, sleeping on the ground on the pad, under the tarp. I am lighter. period.

I'm not more comfortable, but I'm lighter.

This is back to what I almost always say about hammocks, they're about comfort, not weight. I love 'em. - but you can take almost any hammock set up and delete the hammock and be lighter by the weight of the hammock. if you can also delete an underquilt and now use a lighter pad because you deleted the hammock, again, you're lighter by that much more still.

Some people (I do know 'em) sleep *just fine* on a blue foam
pad on the ground. I'm not one, so I'll carry the hammock wink
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