oldscout, when i was talking about taking 3-4 pairs of everything it was quite a few years ago, probably about 4-5 years. And it was the type of deal that my mom was saying " don't come crying to me when your blabla bla get cold." and stuff like that. I didn't really know any better, so i just packed up a bunch of stuff and called it good. after i would come home with clean shirts and crap like that from a 4 day packing trip i knew that i was packing WAY to much clothes. now i am just trying to narrow it down.

Again, thank you guys for the lists that some are posting and the help and suggestions.