Bill, yeah! I did have some funky weird stoves and I'm still thinking of building more. I'm still thinking of an internal wick type pop can stove. I think my problem may lie with too large of holes on the exterior. It is about 1/3 the height of a 12oz can. That thing really burned up the fuel. It is well disperced by the wick so it has a lot of surface. I think there is some type of wick in the Trangia stove I have. If I can shorten the profile closer to a typical pop can stove add less wick material and have smaller jet holes it may work. Either way, it's fun coming up with ideas. And BTW. I had help swilling all that Heine. But I kept the cans....