I have to first credit phat for this idea. Moderators, if this belongs in another area, feel free to move it. Maybe it belongs in the beginner area. Anyways, there is a constant problem newbies and especially scouts face when backpacking. Getting the weight down, and not breaking the bank, and usually the bank has very small funds. Plus, you have to look at growing boys and not knowing how long this hobby will last. Well, for every challenge you need rules. The first two, it has to be under $200, and without food or water, 20lb. The 20lbs includes the clothes and shoes on the body, along with stuff to hold water and cook food. The location, 3 season Philmont. I believe the nighttime lows can easily reach 20F in 3 season (correct me if I am wrong). Plus, it rains every day (well, it did when I was there). MYOG is encouraged, but it must be easy for someone who has never made one before (and is between the ages of 12 and 18) to make it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I am sure I am missing something. I guess we will see how this goes. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Oh yeah, no sale prices, they aren't predictable.

Edited by finallyME (12/05/08 07:13 AM)
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