A soon-to-be bride was planning for her honeymoon cruise and dropped in at her drugstore to pick up dramamine and birth control pills. The druggest took a look at the lables of the bags he was handing over and said, "If it makes you sick, why do you keep doing it?" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I agree with phat. From my perspective, light/ultralight is all about comfort...the comfort of a light pack. If so much is dropped out that it impacts other factors of comfort or safety , then you're doing it wrong, IMO. Yes, I have read about gram weeinies whose approach is that weight is paramount. But, as my group in Boy Scouts use to say, "Any fool can be uncomfortable."

FB
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