Yes, I have full fenders on my bike to stop the striping, and the road grit spray in dry weather, and I wear a hip length jacket. I don't want to have to carry and change into dry clothes at work, and wearing wet stuff is not a viable option.Keeping a poncho over my legs is a bit of a trick. I think I will try the crotch vent first if I can find some tough, soft mesh. Then take out areas under the jacket until I get comfortable or trash the pants...Mine is a 20-30 minute commute that I treat more as a joyride than a mad dash, so I just might stay comfortable.