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#95113 - 04/25/08 06:08 AM Question for White Box stove users
urbansix Offline
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Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 52
Loc: Atlanta, GA
(I did a search and if the answer's buried in there I couldn't find it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> )

Is there any convenient way to snuff it and then drain the leftover fuel back into the bottle once it cools? I currently have a heavy-ish Trangia, which has a snuffer/simmer lid, and a cap to save the leftover fuel for next time. The catfood-container stoves I've played around with don't seem any faster (if not slower, even) than the Trangia, but do save a lot on weight and are easily drained.

I really like the simplicity & claimed performance of the White Box, but it looks like it's meant to burn itself out with every use, which doesn't seem very flexible, and could hurt fuel efficiency until you are spot-on at guessing meal prep times.

Aside - how does the air get in?

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#95114 - 04/25/08 06:59 AM Re: Question for White Box stove users [Re: urbansix]
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I recently picked up a white box, but have only had a chance to fiddle with it a little bit. I don't think there's a generally accepted method for sunffing it based on any manufacturer's information. However, I tried snuffing it by covering it with an upside down titanium cup that holds about 10-12 ozs. and fits over the white box with just a little room to spare. This seemed to work. A caution though--I need to experiment a little more with it to make sure my limited experiment didn't work just because the fuel was already almost finished. Gerry Magnes
Schenectady, NY

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#95115 - 04/25/08 07:58 AM Re: Question for White Box stove users [Re: urbansix]
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Registered: 03/04/04
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“…and then drain the leftover fuel back into the bottle once it cools?”

I’ve heard of hikers have success with this suction tool: http://www.packafeather.com/fuelbottle.html

But as you noted, after a while you get used to knowing how much alcy you need for given h2o volume and temperature. And it doesn’t have to be “spot-on”. Even when you’re within 10% of an overestimate, it is not that much waste. I sometimes add another cup of water (if the flame is still going) and warm it up for another hot-chocolate-to go. Also, in a group (my groups), sometimes an alcy stove goes out too early; at which time another member will say “here, finish up on my flame.”

Just some ideas…

-Barry

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#95116 - 04/25/08 09:24 AM Re: Question for White Box stove users [Re: urbansix]
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No direct experience with the white box, but I do use other stoves. It seems that by the time the stove has cooled to the point that you can salvage the unburned fuel that most has evaporated.

I think the practical answer is carry more fuel than you need until you get good at pouring the right amount.
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#95117 - 04/25/08 09:46 AM Re: Question for White Box stove users [Re: BarryP]
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Yep...I'd agree with Barry. When I use too much fuel I just heat up more water <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Then I can brush my teeth with warm water or wash my face...or have more tea! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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