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#182057 - 01/17/14 01:25 PM Drought-what is your back up stove?
hikerduane Offline
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Registered: 02/23/03
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Loc: Meadow Valley, CA
With the increased interest and testing of alcohol and Esbit type stoves, many design changes have been made, making these more attractive than ever. What is your backup stove or what you are hearing as the next go to stove under fire restrictions? Many jurisdictions do not allow a stove to be used that cannot be shut off, not just by covering up or throwing dirt or water on it.
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#182058 - 01/17/14 01:52 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: hikerduane]
rockchucker22 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/12
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I have a tiny Ti ISO/butane stove that I bought 10 years ago that weighs maybe 2 oz. it is a brand that went out of business maybe 8 years ago. It works great and is pretty efficient with a windscreen. I'll dig it out and take a picture, I'm pretty sure there is no name on it and I can't remember what it is.
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#182064 - 01/17/14 03:39 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: rockchucker22]
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My Primus Micron Ti stove weighs 2.5 oz. That's my primary stove. Like others of my beloved gear items, it has since been discontinued. I have an alcohol stove, but somehow when it's time to pack for a trip I always bring the canister stove. For a longer trip, stove + fuel weight is less than alcohol--last time I calculated, the cutoff was about 7 days.

The way things are going, even canister stoves may be banned by late summer, or the forests may even be closed. Unless we get more snow, I plan to get my trips in early this coming summer. Of course there have been years (like the last two) in which the serious "winter" snow accumulation didn't really start until March. There's still hope!

California, though--I really feel for you folks down there. The hills around Petaluma, where my daughter lives, are normally green this time of year. This year they aren't even brown; they're gray!


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#182066 - 01/17/14 03:57 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: OregonMouse]
hikerduane Offline
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Tyson, OM, I have a few canister stoves of course in my arsenal. smile Maybe bring the GigaPower. In the past here on the Plumas NF, everything was banned except for campgrounds. Except for maybe feeling like I have a bug coming on, I try to get out most weekends. I'll be stocked up on trips.
Duane

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#182067 - 01/17/14 03:59 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: hikerduane]
skcreidc Offline
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Registered: 08/16/10
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I just have the usual boring pocket rocket and whisperlight. But if things get real bad, maybe I'll cough up for a parabolic solar cooker. wink

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#182082 - 01/17/14 10:00 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: skcreidc]
hikerduane Offline
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The guys I bp with here in CA are all in for a 11 item trip. Good time to go stoveless.
Duane

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#182085 - 01/17/14 10:46 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: hikerduane]
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I can easily get by with tuna and chicken packets with flat bread, olive oil and mayonnaise with some onion and spices. Mix instant coffee in with some Nido and chocolate drink (must have caffeine!) Jerky and the usual nuts and bars. We went with a friend in the Sierra in Sept. that went stoveless. I brought my MSR Micro-Rocket (2.6 oz.), but we can do without. The look of this coming fire season, which already is starting!!!!!!!!!!!, is very frightening. Here in Vt. I can have bonfires safely. I never do ,though.


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#182089 - 01/17/14 11:18 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: hikerduane]
rockchucker22 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/12
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Loc: Eastern Sierras

It says "Titan" on the stove wings. I took off the igniter some time ago. It weighs 3 oz as it is now. Any idea of what it is? Vaude maybe? I've had it for about 10 years.
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#182093 - 01/18/14 12:35 AM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: rockchucker22]
hikerduane Offline
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Markill? Titanium?
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#182095 - 01/18/14 10:06 AM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: hikerduane]
rockchucker22 Offline
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It's Titainuim and Hiking Jim has a picture of an identical one on his website.
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#182096 - 01/18/14 10:15 AM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: hikerduane]
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Loc: Washington State, King County
An excellent year for a lot of people to try going stoveless.

For short-to-intermediate trips I prefer that now anyway. Sometimes on longer trips it's nice to have a little more food variety, to get some foods from small resupply venues that require cooking, but even there one can generally make do with some creativity.
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#182099 - 01/18/14 12:39 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: BrianLe]
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Packit Gourmet has some dehydrated items that require only cold water rehydration. I've tried one of the chicken salads, the roast beef, and hamburger wrap. I'd eat any of them again with no hesitation.
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#182103 - 01/18/14 02:05 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: bluefish]
rockchucker22 Offline
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Good point, I always presoak my dehydrated meals to help conserve fuel. I'm betting most dehydrated meals could be served cold, kind of like left overs!
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#182105 - 01/18/14 02:21 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: rockchucker22]
hikerduane Offline
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Loc: Meadow Valley, CA
Leftovers? I'm single, nothing gets left, maybe thrown out after getting stuffed. smile I've moved on to single serving freeze dried stuff for vacations as I can't eat the two serving packages anymore, supplemented with cheaper stuff like ramen or dried soup mix from the food co-op to cut dinner food costs on longer trips. Weekends, I'll bring something besides freeze dried food, something where I can use one of my vintage stoves for a bit to cook longer.
Duane

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#182131 - 01/19/14 02:25 AM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: OregonMouse]
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Registered: 10/30/03
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Loc: Marina del Rey,CA
OM, the weather here is hot and dry. Very little snowpack. A big fire down here was started by hikers with a campfire, which was banned at the time, so they have been tracked down and arrested. Hiking in these conditions is problematic due to the fire risk.
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#182135 - 01/19/14 11:54 AM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: TomD]
hikerduane Offline
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I was car camping a few weekends ago, some snow, but none on my picnic table in the CG, had a campfire that night in the metal enclosed pit. Sparks still popped out and landed beyond the required clearance around the fire if I was out of a CG. The cinders still stayed alive for awhile after landing on the frozen ground. Hate to think of people who have no idea on clearances around a fire and so many fail to put the fire out properly too.
Duane

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#182137 - 01/19/14 01:22 PM Re: Drought-what is your back up stove? [Re: BrianLe]
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Registered: 01/25/08
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Stove-less is a drag in my mind, but this may be the summer for it. I'm not really sure how to get the proper feeling of satisfaction without hot food once a day, but I can get used to it, I suppose.
For breakfast, I guess I'll be popping no-doze :), but I'm embarrassed to admit I had to do that on a backpacking trip last fall simply because I forgot my coffee. Another thing I've done, which I actually like quite a bit is to make sun-tea. Actually, if you just put a teabag or two in your water bottle before bed and keep the bottle in your sleeping bag, you get a pretty good tea for breakfast.

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