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#155231 - 09/29/11 03:51 PM Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ?
frediver Offline
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Who is using this cup with a Alcohol Stove, I have a brasslite, how do you like the cup?


Edited by frediver (10/02/11 02:39 AM)

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#156026 - 10/18/11 06:27 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: frediver]
frediver Offline
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Bump Cuz Someone here must have one of these cups !

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#156027 - 10/18/11 06:50 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: frediver]
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Not me. I gave up on Sierra cups about the same time I gave up my external frame pack: they weren't deep enough, and didn't have enough capacity, for cooking. The wide surface area meant that hot drinks cooled too quickly. The handle wasn't particularly convenient to hold (unless you modified it), and greatly interfered with packing it in a small pot.

They used to a badge of being a "true backpacker" - especially if yours was the official Sierra Club version. But as far as practical -well, let's just say that my Titan kettle really exposed the Sierra cup's weakness. I've not owned one since, and don't miss it.

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#156029 - 10/18/11 07:25 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Glenn]
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When going solo, my 550 ml pot is my cup. When taking the grandkids out, I use plastic cups from GSI. That way each kid has his/her own color!
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#156030 - 10/18/11 07:45 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: OregonMouse]
oldranger Offline
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I have the "standard size," approx 500 ml or 8 oz, sierra cup in titanium. Nice and light and works just fine. I equipped it with a lid fashioned from aluminum flashing to improve efficiency when heating water, and it makes a nice little kit for boiling up a nice cup of tea on a day hike. It would be even better with a well designed folding handle.

One nice thing about the shape is that it is well adapted for digging in a dry stream bed in search of water....

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#156032 - 10/18/11 07:51 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: oldranger]
Glenn Offline
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Never thought of a lid! That would make it work better.

I use my MSR Blizzard tent stake (aka "toilet trowel") when I have to dig for water.

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#156033 - 10/18/11 07:55 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Glenn]
oldranger Offline
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A lid really does help. Although when I am planning an overnight and I want minimal weight, my SP 700, in which my Gatorade bottle nestles comfortably, is my preferred item of cookgear. I heat with either a Pocket Rocket or a Trangia.

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#156071 - 10/19/11 01:24 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Glenn]
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Uhh, Glenn, how often do you use your "toilet trowel" for digging for water??????

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#156073 - 10/19/11 01:32 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: OldScout]
Glenn Offline
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Not very often - we're blessed with good streams. I've used it to deepen a spot occasionally. And, I think I know what you're thinking: "You put that into a stream when it's been WHERE?" (I made a similar remark to a proctologist once, when he was bragging about his hand-dipped candy. smile )

Remember: when I use the trowel, it's to dig an empty hole. When the hole is full, I use a stick to push the dirt back in. That trowel has to go back in my pack, after all!

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#156075 - 10/19/11 01:36 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Glenn]
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As my daughter might quip, "TMI, dad, TMI."

wink

Cheers,

Originally Posted By Glenn
Not very often - we're blessed with good streams. I've used it to deepen a spot occasionally. And, I think I know what you're thinking: "You put that into a stream when it's been WHERE?" (I made a similar remark to a proctologist once, when he was bragging about his hand-dipped candy. smile )

Remember: when I use the trowel, it's to dig an empty hole. When the hole is full, I use a stick to push the dirt back in. That trowel has to go back in my pack, after all!
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#156076 - 10/19/11 02:01 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Rick_D]
Glenn Offline
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Yeah, it kind of is. smile

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#156079 - 10/19/11 03:56 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Glenn]
finallyME Offline
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Loc: Utah
Exactly. The toilet trowel does not touch the bad stuff. You dig a hole with it, then use a stick to push the dirt back.

I don't like the sierra cup shape. So, I don't have one.
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#156084 - 10/19/11 05:51 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: finallyME]
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Why do you need to use a stick to push the dirt back in? It doesn't touch anything on that end either.

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#156086 - 10/19/11 06:25 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: BZH]
frediver Offline
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Registered: 05/11/07
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Thanks for the replies, at least I know folks are paying attention.
Some of the reason listed are way I am considering one.
The sloping sides I'm thinking would be an advantage on
an Alcohol burner and having a lid is always a plus.
Heat loss after the boil I had not really considered but using
a small candle warmer would solve that problem.
One other issue I have discovered is a poor fit lid-to-cup, I hope that has been fixed, that will likely be the deal breaker for me.
If I get the cup I will post my test results.

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#156088 - 10/19/11 06:51 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: BZH]
Glenn Offline
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Loc: Ohio
At the risk of WTMI (Waaay too much information), there's the whole mixing business (to help start breakdown) and the whole tamping-the-paper-into-the-hole business. There's also the chance the trowel might slip. smile

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#156127 - 10/20/11 10:06 AM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: BZH]
finallyME Offline
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Originally Posted By BZH
Why do you need to use a stick to push the dirt back in? It doesn't touch anything on that end either.


There are some risks that I am not willing to take. smile
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#156133 - 10/20/11 01:42 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: finallyME]
Steadman Offline
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Virginia
C'mon; it's just poop. Ya'll are parents - you know it can be worse.

On topic, I thought metal cups were hard to drink out of (I've found them so) b/c of the metal getting hot enough to cook your lips.

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#156164 - 10/20/11 06:42 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Steadman]
oldranger Offline
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Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 1735
Loc: California (southern)
This was certainly true with the enameled metal cups of yore, as well as a lot of stainless steel items. It is less of an issue with titanium.

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#156172 - 10/20/11 08:50 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: oldranger]
Steadman Offline
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Registered: 09/17/09
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Loc: Virginia
Thank you. I haven't bought any Titanium products yet, so I didn't know.

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#156181 - 10/20/11 11:59 PM Re: Ti 750 Sierra cup, anybody have one ? [Re: Steadman]
Rick_D Offline
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Ti heat transfer is so slow I can pick up cookpots from the stove by the edge with bare fingers. Don't try this with aluminum!

Cheers,

Originally Posted By Steadman
Thank you. I haven't bought any Titanium products yet, so I didn't know.
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